Stranger Things Cast - Season 2 Recap

Wednesday, November 1st

Manley and Alyssa geeked out hard discussing the latest season of Stranger Things. ***SPOLIERS*** Who was the MVP of the season? WTH is the shadow monster? What will happen in Season 3? All things discussed in this episode. Listen on, fellow ST nerds!


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All right here we go welcome sue. The recap. Stranger things seizing soon I am John Manley. I am with Melissa hello Melissa Bell and where it's knock everything from. Demo dogs to smoke monsters Q. Billy's hair it. Her put everything in between that oh average in the pedaling it and then go over the show because. We totally freaked out on it any against its use so here is a place or we can talk about it without them having few. Spoil anything for anyone says if you haven't watched. It all yet. First well why he's leaving here listening to this yes go and train leave go way. But it takes you nine hours and then come back will be right here click it just pause here at the lake turn off the page pops. Hit the pause button open every Netflix we'll see a couple of hours. But to be three seconds. All right. Listening Jonas from this point for it yes the spoiler alerts. You've been warned Alyssa let's get right into him and what let's start with just like our initial reactions to like you would think. I loved it I thought it was better than the first season first season was great yeah but on why I think the graphics. They definitely feel I definitely up there I see ya budget pressure. Pressure. Overall a lot alike where it ended with the snow mobile bands you know little bit of a happy ending there but like you know it's not over. Yes. That's an inning was really get to a breather like the ending I liked all of it. An effort has been in the first season but I mean like also it was everything kind of expected it to I got a and I expected that I can hoped it would be what it was you know likes don't mess with it. Just do it again yes kind of thing and athletic data really you don't I thought there was like less. There are less like pop culture references. Which at dot was kind of cool because you get needed as much as the first one right the first like every college in the outlets from what I've really that's so cool. This when you're kind of like once the story kicked and you desperately need that anymore yet but even so there were still lake. There's still good references as well he's had a kind of they're a little bit more around their limit when suddenly thinking you know. But yes so. They both agree. Season was really cool we like to rely on I wanna go through every episode that just seems like a really annoying and get dragged. So let's just does these like big barking questions. Was your best. With the best part of the season for. I have a couple actually walled the coolest part I thought it was at the end episode three when the demagoguery in. Shadow monster basically just took over will release just standing there like BACM in the field like he is there alone in the dark and it's just. Indeed does take you know yeah. But it was really cool image and you push an M at that point epic like midnight or something now I have to just watch one or episodic yet. We can't end the night on that sent over the weekend yet type that was one of the coolest parts. The best. I Kyle onto an L came back on eleven just like bust down the door and she. Eyeliner on her hair slicked back if you are bad that's right Joan jet net adds total and she's just like she was I'm here she is that you expect that there. It. I that was them at their parts just because like you want her to come back you want Mike to see her check like. I mean he just basically been waiting for 92 days. I mean it's act like I've felt for the love you don't call that numbers for current pressure on so when she just can't save them at that point and then the doors open you're like. Just I was articles moments for yeah for sure that's that's on the right. Bomb for me it was. I really really really light. The bottom hopper an eleven stuff that that was really kind of touching and cool to see him kind of relieved. You know he's so by the bookings the cop ray says Sykes you know. He's really the only easy only cut that really knows what's going on line and Ian he has to kind of keep everything under wraps and spirited cool buddies and he's playing by the rules but he's also cheating at same time. And trying to keep her safe which is a hard thing to do so I thought that was really cool I enjoyed them together. And that that was really really good. And I'll serve really lights. I like the Destin and Lucas and Mac stuff get that that was a really good to. I'm so those of pride to my favorite parts of of this thing ms. and he didn't make. I didn't like how Dustin. Was acting so dumb hiding dart like combined do like I I known I was again OK if I was. We like to increase some of his greens OK okay so it's like your boy wanna impress a girl you have this new species found great tonight but it seemed time. Don't need any it do you like look at what is happening to your friend you know what happened the past like. This thing just magically appears like I just thought who's been all of them there. And. The part where. It can. I can't. Years. Click has chosen not to elf I yeah. I think it was out of character and like such. Kind of a dumb like. Why would you like yet why would you ever even there there is no reason defeated do you thank you know what that is the occasional like when I won with a sizzling then. But Q redhead over the course there and a but he lives there even still though like what a debt like yeah what he'd. Why would you do do do that but right that's not gonna impress anybody know what that's a monster relatively just fought them then chipped it just happened. Our I guess a year ago but whatever area and that that was a little bit as a bit of stress I thought. Elitist. Think the worst part of the season for me. Sadly was I didn't like any of the L side plot when she went to. See her mom and all that kind of stuff like. That part felt kind of rushed and we look at the end of the table is really the point of it. It was rushed on it's many say that because I liked those scenes because I feel like held got a little bit of closure there later she I mean. She no more mom was I mean they just ticker. So I like to that they included BS I agree with you felt a little rushed on what was the plane I think the point was for us to. Kind of getting like twelve. The plan was to get her off the screen for a bunch of episodes that she because she is that it. If she's at this is she's episodes for it that does the series is that the season's four episodes want to you can stop everything with her with the powers and had a my theories they had to get find something for her to do to stay away trip because once everything went sour. How broad is what got her like OK we're good. Save everybody do you saying yes and aggregate you know go down to that'd go down to the lab and closed the thing is it an easy so. That's my theory is like and that is that that's what bothered me about that Beckett generally cool side plot but it just like. It. The little cruise and I called the warriors because that's what they were you know what the old seventies and we warriors like that and make. Why would she didn't like I was she has stepped up as they got involved with any of that lake. Because she's just. Long mean to you feel connected like hopper is her person Caylee she has her friends Mike Scioscia hasn't seen Justine and even years like hopper's bend her. Person and I feel like she just longs for her connection BK is she's just been locked up in a room in a laugh and Jerry you know. Lab close and every year go to the doctors ops like she's just been merit alone no want to talk to that are pop up so I just feel like. Hey she met a girl her age they become I went through the same thing in so she just like all right go on with the flow. Except for hair they'd been a part of the crew and she feels welcome and she does which is part of something in there when my number eight at the other would mean. They explain how she knew which he where she was aware she was from an all these people. No I'm she figured out how. Now but I feel like that I bet storyline is not finished obviously. I mean it can't be even like that's I guess that's it just bothers me the most obviously that was just like. I don't think anything got accomplished there lake is just like go find something for her to do you offspring. And this and started with then. Robbie. All right mile member just destruction like who is this person and you see easier boom you know she wipes the blood opera knows it's yours or gain like. But other network like okay this is just another girl who Agee. And it's got a and I mean certainly it's going to be a path for sees him through there that has to be a part of season three guys who otherwise we'll talk about how will get to that Olympic team predict what things can happen in future but they. Yet at that part of me is kind of fell flat especially as the rest of it was humming along so well at that point like I think that the episode seven. Yeah papers in yet and it just like richest. Plopped right is that this entire episode is like pain of pointless. But no offense like you great character and in light you know she's. That the body new broom if I was that Millie Bobby Brown camp close enough. Both she's amazing she's the best. So as Gladys here it meantime obviously but it just like the need this is as important. Itself we will be in the future. But yet OK so. Let's give out some awards. Let's go with. Bests. Mute character. I don't have to go with Bob because he kind of saved the day there on who you think you're above zero Bob brain. And one. I mean I thought it was cool to have enjoys being a relationship and define the limit and happiness they're seriously though. Yours has been a crazy she still taken wheels of the doctors and she doesn't really know if her son is a 100% a cable like Donald K us you're able to. Find dork you boyfriend and yeah really nice and he's we and he he wants to be apart you know will and Jonathan's eyes due in. I just thought. I liked Bob I know you super dork that I liked and he did it. He and it is he did. On the did you hear the original plan for him. Of the original plan for his character was when he has the speech with will about standing up your fears that. Willis with Killen at that accused can be like. Party possessed and do it himself in tea. But when they like the chemistry and I think with the guys China and there like we can't do that he's the best and there's your you know there's your. As the best pop reference of all of them as it was Mikey from good means you know I mean in a show that is varied duties. Ish yes. Any ending the pirate. Treasurer particularly funny and that was good within their approach paper certainly is ultimately mean Yang and that was admitted that was really good so OK it's a year for every character is Bob I think from mean. You'd Erica because the sister with the bat is so (%expletive) Code for you should know now that they have she did not have time for any of it out. And got no time for that he's yeah. He's a bunch of dirt cheap just in the background as colony it is by. Like her staff levels off the chart like holy smokes I'm just kidding she was great tournament and by that. Bonds everyone's favorite character right right makes. Bobby likable he helped them figure out what the hell's going on hopper. Yeah and and then he helped them out by. And for the team there most improved character award goes to you. Will all I'm not whilom sorry might annoyed me at first and I get why he was all around. Oh you know Kyle like pissed off you know or eleven was like he was kinda hearing her over the Joaquin night just upset there. In general so he kind of annoyed me in the beginning. The bend towards the end like all right yes we can let mad Max in part of the crew would ever accused. Being counted and the youngest I user or acting program. I would say for me it was Lucas because. In the I felt like in the first season who's like token black kid a crap you know and then this he added he was a major part of this that was it was good to see him. And and Dustin who are kind of teachers your characters of last season again. Get more of a run this through but also like I think you had to say they truly the most improved is will because. He lake the first season and he was gone you don't ever knowingly. He was even around for the entire season and I like in this when he is the focal point and hold him things so like his acting was really good as a you know as a kid actor like totally and just loses mine in. Can I have that like weird Eaton who's good at like foot and from Mike. Scared (%expletive) list to lake. I in hello our own NB Alec now I'm bad like. That that episode for Arabs and it was but when he when she's drawing him about. And he stain and he's like no you likes it cold I yeah yeah. Like you just know there's something not right there on Syria fresher well. Okay now go with that part of go to you let's go to Q whose MVP season team. VP MVP season Q. And man Steve he'd like corset Steve's Steve. As just say wins he's like RN and then go apologize for Nancy and Atalanta apologizing. And RA dozens. Pull my arm to you guys go and take care of this this is he holed it Downey take some punches from Billy. And it still is like our with dude it's. For real Steve Harrington MVP no doubt about it season you MVP Steve I love how we still have a bad news like he did you get rid of it. Where's your bat and hey Natalie. Do you dish out some severe beat downs tease him demagogues. He also. Essentially saved the city and topple ball that. Keep dust and some pretty solid fashion tips. Fashion tips like that quite well to answer right it's like Big Brother yes he went from the worst to the best and knowing that you know knowing when he gave organizer talk in the locker room and there only an antsy in Jonathan and left for the day never came back like instead of like trying to fight Jonathan he's just like kind of accepting well. I kinda knew. The Nancy hadn't yet he is like the perfect. Eighties Jilin teenage movie villain the first season. And in the season he really had a really solid like redemption ark now he's like he's the man yeah he rules he's like a really part of the current yanks have now is gonna college so it. He won't be in season he had help come back he'll make an epinephrine and no doubt helped us distillers has had to say it might be for an. We talk about that for a second because I absolutely loved it unlike. That yourself to come back right now stop I'm not joking I pick it right. In the eight the it. I pulled out. I mean again. I don't know man grabbed disagree and I'll agree to disagree I feel like you have to major confidence to lock in the snowball just. Sprint out of sheriff also hairspray. Valid. And also I think that really was a thing for it like it's with the real a real right yeah today. I'm just to verify the supposed. Armed with somebody new characters or second so. We have a couple new characters you have on Macs. Billy speaking of hair yet Billy. Which we you have eaten the ratty as. Ugly is fake used Molly. I think I've ever at its ever been on TV showed mr. Vegas blew it it's just so bad leaders like that's having a ridiculous. Athlete. Dirty and I'd and then yet also Gary tuchman doctor Owens to this isn't a big part of the season what are they like generally get lake and it really understand lake. Was he. Was and he's with he's lake. How did he not know anything about anything. It was weird it's like they brought aiming and. To take over for Brenner Annie is lake started off of collective bad guy because it like you know ground Italian thing and now it's fine inches PG a sea of light though like. Whatever it could be an endorsement he never like. Ollie he was there's a hole down there perfect. Yet you know any thing and then. Police said he was sort of the bad guy in the beginning watching hopper leave just kind of be reaper like waving to whatever and then. Helping them get the hell out of there are so it's kind of like and then he was the only one in that room with all the doctors to have sympathy. Out for will and Stubbs that's talent pool you know what is he doing. And then at the and he was like here's on the machine about he's letting them right or certificates now she's officially your kids speak documents like so he was a big guy that might. Why I guess like the reason I wiley is. Why was he there at it like for like all of the doctors to be in that room and trying to figure out like. If this is a continuation of this laboratory. How come none of them have any idea what to do about it and like uniting really you're right it would knows who do it's like and Joyce so we call them out Alec. Nobody knows like as in this part of your this you've been studying this right yet. What are you testing my son for exactly in the world to stand in Arlington. Yes I could never just really couldn't get a gauge on his character like with the good is he bad is he somewhere in the middle like. And he really wasn't any of those things he's kind of Ayers there. And then of course you have Billy and Max. The fan and the new family and the thing. Which IIIE. Never got the sense of sympathy for Billy by the end that you did for Stephen the first season like that is just the street did it. He's a you know his dad is. Hard on him and so you know he's a date back to everyone here like I kinda get that level but at the same time. And as those that if you're walking out Erica like that you'd probably be a bad person to you. I mean you just haven't I mean you just be picked them all times driving like a maniac he's pissed because you wanna move there I'd edit I get it you know we ought to do things in line communities in times like almost write them over on their body aches and espionage like he's at a two day that I can is which like its is those kind of rhythm because like. In the beginning it was like you know he can't hang up the street community can I use very like overly protective it's been like of Max. And I thought that was accident for some weird like oh why are they even in this town right. And then that never really that in advertised as a and he's had a crappy dad like. It is really give two craps about acts like he pretends he does it really doesn't yet Giffords are always the over two productive brother and I like by the second. Episode of like oh no he's just that jerk and he is like to have some kind of power yet which format which didn't quite make sense like in and they make. I don't know man they can have tried them more but were also nitpicking a season right now so like he was. You great character and I liked him and radicalism. With great next super cool. Yes used on some friends. Are dead and highlights Alec that they kind of it was kind of negated like. Like a foil for her you know some friction between Lucas and dusting thing. Friction in the group and even when it you know eleven came packages that IMAX that she's operate pastor like I know. And Amy as you flirt with my boy all the queen B. On the green yeah I pretty. Kids so caddie and eleven so caddie. And it. I didn't like went on Macs and Lucas were up on the trailer having that little taught and you get to know Max a bit more and that. To make conversation with the and you might that's super. That answer works. Yeah I mean who knows that the gonna do next and the kids around and get older so I mean what happens next with the any characters that you can stand. And besides Billy. Yeah he's pissed me off my ire really do you enjoy the characters and the actors like did you read it. And it'll just you know been so intense. I think the tires agreed to an actor yes just out. Now as far as I mean I guess Brenner says he's just. The worst. A by another man. Now I think. Of their own characters I don't like the again like that little crew that. You that it got with. In the in this Kelly against girls are sisters name's Kelly yeah like it's just that little punk rock to build the warriors and handling items like. Initial I think really get at being just corny and eighties and retro enough to be like. That's cabaret I thought that was just like two leagues you far Leslie I mean. And knights finished T and it was just those standards it is it is cornea that that that whole thing was is corny too mean and I hated it blighted hated partly just like whatever it. On but whatever that that was the only those and anything that really bothered me. Wait a second I want it brings up can we talk about so Nancy in goal Mike's mom care and answering the door amber and Billy was looking for magnolia and she answers the door (%expletive) like that again he matters the I was like. What is happening here it like there is pretty. So okay character I don't like their dad. Nancy end Mike's dad is really what is he do you. He just stands there acting pit stop all the time like final get the door no my kids aren't here that live look he's just a run BB. I like it yeah that's that's dad's in the eighties were like that that's that's a deadly eighties were like Osbourne 86 CO. I was a softening and there's like aka little lake complaints about. How I guess like it was a colonials are complaining that. The seasons was down because. Nobody knew where their kids were the whole time and I like did you grow like Cindy grew up in late eighties like yeah you're Paris is what you run in the neighborhood thank you can just leave. No lights on it yeah yeah yeah I don't like it also lately we're having to sleep over him in Billy's backyard shows stability. And in LA is he the best package you have the school we like you good review like think Maria's house and your mama that cool. Or no iPhone no eye opener bottle of gin she's like I'm single for the weekend now Iraq. Intricate dance and kids down to against though like totally like I is that like that was a funny complaint because. It was so worked back then you've got room for you it was pretty fun. Now I just thought it was I thought that scene was a little. Weird against the five is doing is like trying to Apple's sexy it completely how old are you like this is their moms the dads in the next room sleeping in. Anyway I'm just curious to see if anything comes taxis. Hi no way you like drama. And how to be funny if it dead aren't what else are you talking about. She talked and joie it's a hole. Yet well and there's the John McCain and Nancy sidelight to use justice for bar. That's just bark so. Finally. Nancy Johnson got together I mean it was only a matter of time yeah I was like they do is down and then shortly. Account I think I just force them to make it happen that that whole scene and go to C Murray he. The conspiracy you yet like that I I enjoyed. As a coup and drinking vodka and being adults and in trying to make this so. To cover their ass to get this out the public but still protected themselves because the lean. Yeah so I thought that was really great hash tag justice from our. Justice has been served. A Lois and KFC alright it's like to go do you really good steep yield of KFC. Sincere he that it is to. Let you know Jessica Nancy. Yes I mean there's there's as I did it Twitter account but follows. What is the recipe. That five. Five spot fibers and spices or fibers and six spices and I bet that you follow the earth fives but whatever it is it's. The official Kentucky fried chicken Twitter account follows. Five Spice Girls. And six guys named herb. Evans bunny. I actually clicked on that one day canals like this for real it is true. Which is fantastic. Which is fantastic so I thought that was a good as a good side thing to deceive those guys I mean. Get together and whenever like felt bad for the I felt bad for Steve which had lazy on the budget but he also likes. We're Steve had a rough season and he really had he can't be different kids that's embarrassing get beat him for kids he got whipped on the basketball court twice. And and got his girl ticked by a weird though net stolen. Kenny stills was like aren't whatever it should scale that we need to do you like let's get this done it but the damage Dodson. We help these kids are key yet he was really the MVP. Of the season ago he really sick of being met looking back I mean and he really had a rough one. Head Christie's first. I don't read it. One. Do you have any fears and what the smoke monsters. That. The shadow do you like the big thing the big belt looks like for inspired that I want not gonna do it yeah. Noam and like it's just. It's like. Because you have a demo to acts and then you have the shadow monsters sort of just running the whole thing and like whatever Phil would do. Ash. How will ansari whatever will would you flashback scene Whelan. And I and it was like the tunnels. Of yeah shadow monsters arms and appalled that like it isn't that would Atlantis. Like Whitman you would just and he just Selig the tunnels and they are trying to find operates up on the tunnels where the underground. Right but it looked like part of the shadow monster like you know and mean it looked like the shadow monsters part of the underground that's what I was getting. Well who knows that since I am no one knows right thank. You can be right it's like okay this is a map but it also reminds me in the shadow monsters like art it's hugest the underground. And upside down itself and I mean. If those of us. He has an says those exits like. How could wiley just if this thing really wanted to do anything while it is semi is dumb little dogs and why would it not. Just come out the RA come out like you bike like in the demagogues come through the liking it. Oral replicas little troop sizzle army air cannon doing his work form but why would he kill will the first place. Also in the upside down right and also will he couldn't kill willing had to keep alive as well as the host right. But the lake. Why were there any dirty full grown damaged organs. Think there's only with the one from the first season or so may I mean I guess it's feasible but like it's always the problem with like a big. It's. And it's an eye can see like all the marvel movies you like when it's the big bad guy with a big. Yeah this guy as the villain but there's the bad behind him the Derek do you he thick. Can they can't obviously is and like woo hoo hoo what would be the story would be few minutes. But like. I'm still trying to figure out what that opinions and why it's why it's there what I mean that's that a BC's entry I assume like if the they figure out how to beat either fears that beat them. Obviously and you. I know Willis has the am adamantly in season one like we didn't know yet like that was a thing it's like Lincoln's skill to learn that he uses. Basically it's a camera wells' body right on and a super spy that was pretty interest I was able lean. Now like then putting him in the the garage shed outside in you know strapping in in in. Just trying to you get knowledge and without even knowing where you is because. Those those scenes are pretty equal to you he mean he mean. The actual damage or an idea of the town residents in those really intense arm. It is to be expected career now. So let's let's let's let's wrap it up with this then. You said you like seize and you've been season when he did okay. I just felt like on one was great don't get me wrong with the first few episodes of season one. They were a little slow okay yes still. Dan will it's not taken away whatever but I just felt like this at this this season moved faster to get more engaged. Alex is doing a little better but. The real question is what do you think would happen in season three. What happens. Who will eleven when it. Was she still have a proper and guess. Yet she's users her birth certificate. So. But how old that go down. Yeah because now she's kind of out in the open right she went to the snowball dance. People had seen her. Where the hell's pop is he really dead I don't think so that humidity I don't get enough. There is that they became the director said he was dead oak. Cool because every went yet that was kind of a weird thing where it's like the first season he had attacked by the monster yes and that was it in them like second he's an early and made it feel like you still around. But the whole tires and we pop up as like no he's dead and even. On eleven when she was talking to you number later on. It was like that's the domain doctor and she's like now he's gone. Yeah so then I was like oh I guess he did get it. Killed in the first season but it. The directors said no that's not true. Yes he I mean I feel like he has to be the big island for the next one somehow sums it. That story has to continue and see. Just hope it is nutrients like. My fear is that it turns into like the anecdote an episode of X-Men almost worth plates. I think eleven is gonna try to chase down all of her. The others. If there's any of the others survived as if she can do that in mind thing to try to find them. She can she's turning to professor acts inches like talent that. And then like it but then also who knows like if the that the doctor Matthew Modine still out there is he still doing experiments is again holding bike trip all of these things. It's gonna come down to. L taking its going to be a one out one thing and it better be seen. To be but wouldn't why wouldn't. What would he still be doing it since the question was he out how does that tie with the under the upside down elicits again to. It's splits off again doesn't like to separate. Stories but I can't see that making it seem like that group what she closed the gate right side is the sole. You know the upset also exists it. And you know smoke monster still there yes. Which smoke monster in street things are smoke monster and lost eight. Who's the better smoke pot and. But so how does that how does the underground comeback earthquakes. How does that work like it is is that I mean obviously there has to be gate somewhere right order is you know. It. I learned yet is he opening in. That are open to that I'd like why would he do that. Maybe just try to find eleven and because he knows that like she'll have something to do with it you know. It's drawing near closing an iron out. Well we have what a year away now against the pro with the binge and you've been something in like four days. And then it's like. Outfielder. Runs over they do you have a Netflix of beyond stranger things it's like there. Listen you wonder if you wanna do an after show talking about what you just wash just listen to this again yes trio. I got time for that I started watching yesterday is. Thick and. On but I didn't like hearing from the creators. And when I mean directors yet they are funny but it. And it really give a whole lot of insight to list comes though. Keep a mystery guest. Well we'll sit in the we'll sit in the studio in his way I guess there's nothing else to do. We Lucas make it and as maintenance staff who could do that anything yes you're listening CUR season Tuesday things wrapped. Podcast. This is a bureau we've played the theme music stranger things but we don't have the licences so committed to make your own a synthesizer staff and our. And. Indeed they self a couple of paying through the thing I'm John Manley. A list of things are joining in at banks and go see you back for season three whenever that burden but the.